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[kristopia]

No, we do not dump, as in get that same type of "feeling" that RNYers do by eating stuff the pouch doesn't like, such as sugar.  However, over the last several months - and especially in most of January and part of February, I was experiencing something similar and it freaked me out a bit til I realized what it was.

I would eat something, and within about 1/2 hour, I would feel like a 15 lb cat was sitting on my chest, and another on my back between my shoulder blades (they're apparently very nimble imaginary cats).  First, I would feel uncomfortable, as if I were needing a back rub - just a burning in between the shoulder blades.  Then, I'd feel as if my sternum, just at the bottom center of my rib cage, was under pressure, too, until I was so uncomfortable I had to get up and pace.  Sometimes walking it off seemed to help.  Sometimes a cup of hot tea, slowly sipped.  But usually, it just hurt - then I'd get the VSG version of the "foamies", which was just excessive mouth watering. 

The second time I felt this, I went to the bathroom because I felt nauseous.  I threw up (not much, but heaved a bit), and within 10 minutes to 1/2 hour, felt infinitely better. 

I feared an ulcer, because of the painful feeling, and it seemed that this happened often after eating something acidic like tomatoes.  But then it happened after having a flour tortilla.  I've discovered in the last month that I can only eat a low carb whole grain tortilla - refined flour in anything gums up and gets stuck in my stomach, giving me the "cat on the chest" feel. 

I got nervous - I don't have insurance right now, and can't afford to go to a doctor to check my stomach.  However, I'm pretty positive it is not an ulcer.  I started reading MacMadame's running/biking blog (fattyfightsback.blogspot.com) and she said the same thing happened to her after...ready for this?....after she either ate too much or too fast.

7 months out and I'm just now figuring out I'm still eating too fast or too much?  DOH!  Anyhow, since I've started paying attention again, I'm eating very slowly again, and paying attention to my feeling of full instead of wolfing something down.  I also was taking a generic version of Prilosec (the walmart equate brand) - it was NOT working as well.  I've started taking real Prilosec again - haven't had a problem since.

Learn something new every day 

[greebo115]

Yup Kris-
exactly what I get with RNY from eating too much or too fast.  The VSG is similar to the restriction part of the RNY so it makes sense that this aspect would be the same/similar. "Too much" happens most often with softer/wetter foods, like chili because I don't get a "full" signal as clearly as for dry foods like chicken and veg with no sauce.

Foamies, I interpret slightly differently - it's when I don't chew properly and get something stuck . Yes, my mouth waters excessively, and I swalow it and swallow it....but there is nowhere for it to go. So pouchie fills and fills and pain builds and builds in my chest......until I eventually have to pay a visit to the bathroom and what "comes up" is a load of white foam. This can keep happening until the blockage is released - either upwards or downwards.

Dumping's just a whole other ball game...... and generally involves a little nap....pouring sweats, shivers and sometimes a visit to the bathroom.

As well as eating slower, try cutting out the wet foods for a while and you should be able feel the "full signal" before it is too late.

Nice one for working it out, sounds like you've got it cracked now 

[T2Nashville]

Yeah, if you're considering VSG and you think you won't have the restriction that RNY people have - think again! Eating too fast always gets me choked up. I think the types of foods that cause us to get queasy vary. For Kris, it might be full-fat tortillas; for me, it's sugar - I get so nauseous with even one bite. I have to be very careful about sugar content, or be prepared to pay the price of "I don't feel good!" (As Danielle says every week on the Dumping Ground...)

I know others who get woozy on high fat content and anything fried. You'll have to learn as you go, and as Kris said, it may be even a year out before you find something that doesn't sit well. Just be careful - treat your little sleeve just like a pouch, and you'll see great results!

[Patrina]

This place is just a FONT of information!

[kristopia]

My "bad tummy" foods are:

Anything made with white enriched flour - gums up in there and HURTS.  Whole grain versions are much better.

Heavily fried or fatty meats.  

Rice - this stuff does not like me - maybe it further swells in there, but I can't eat more than a tablespoon of cooked rice or I'm done for.

Pasta - gums up in the tummy like white bread.    I'm not a huge pasta eater, so I haven't tried the whole grain varieties, and I don't want all that non-protein volume.

So basically, if I avoid predominantly white starches (though potatoes don't hurt), I'm good to go.  

AND, if I eat slowly and make sure I'm not overfilling!

[T2Nashville]

Things I haven't even touched since surgery (mostly because of what Kris just said):

Rice, pasta (I did Dreamfields once, but man, I felt so bloated), anything with white flour, potatoes (I've had a bite or two, but didn't want to get started on these due to carbs), and soda. I have had sugar, but I really, really try to stay away as much as I possibly can.

[worth_the_weight]

My first thought was this sounded like your gallbladder.....do you still have yours?

[kristopia]

Yep, I still have my gallbladder - I hope it's not that - I don't have insurance right now! 

Meanwhile, I haven't had the issue when I've been really careful to eat slowly and not overfill.  So hopefully if it IS my gallbladder, it'll hold off til I have insurance again.

[Sephia]

If I eat too fast it is usally because I forget to put down my food in between bites. Usually because it tasted so good I didn't want to put it down, LOL Of course it only leads me to get sick and throw up.

I KNOW my limit is 2-3 bites TOPS when I start eating. Then I have to push the food away and wait! I wait for the food to hit my system and make me feel full. Then I have to wait for that full feeling to subside enough to take another bite. Then it's a process of bite, put food down & wait - repeat.

The downside is that it takes forever to eat anything. The upside it forces me to savor what I do eat and focus on the things around me, like the people I am with. I don't over eat and I can usually try a little bit of everything.

My husband is my saving grace. We always share a plate now. I will load it up with things I want to try. I will nibble at every thing and when full he finishes it off. My kids help too. If it wasn't for them I don't know how I'd cope, LOL I'd be using teaspoons to serve myself food then.

[kristi-bisti]

I have the same thing when I eat too fast.  I attribute it to not chewing enough.  Especially with "real" food.  (the processed foods never seem to cause me any problems.  It's already been chewed for me! )

My foamies are like Diane's - when my mouth starts watering and I need to let something up, it's the foam. 

I guess that after 35 years of not having to chew, it will take some time to remember that I really need to!

[Sephia]

Ironically, when I got pregnant dense protein foods, like tuna, chicken and even eggs; made my stomach churn something fierce!

Pre-pregnancy I was doing really great with my proteins, but once I got pregnant my poor tummy has seemingly rejected too much dense protein. I rely on my Atkin's shakes, yogurts, cheeses, chicken salads, and some Mexican foods to get my protein in. I don't think it's enoughmost days but I try and try and try.

{{{sigh}}} Only 14 weeks to go. I am SOOOOOO hoping that one I give birth I'll be able to get back to my protein routine. I miss it so much!